March 5, 2026

Ep 208 Calm Amid The Chaos: Emotional Hygiene for Modern Moms with Kristin Cogan

Ep 208 Calm Amid The Chaos: Emotional Hygiene for Modern Moms with Kristin Cogan
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Overwhelm is not your new normal. Between constant notifications, vanishing village support, and the invisible load of appointments, meltdowns, meals, and expectations, modern motherhood can push any nervous system past its limits. We sit down with therapist and coach Kristen Cogan—mom of five and straight-talking guide for moms—to explore practical, compassionate ways to step out of survival mode and into a steadier life that actually feels good.

We start by naming what’s changed for moms today and why “fine” has become a false finish line. From there, Kristen introduces emotional hygiene: daily inner care that prevents resentment, burnout, and those edge-of-lose-it moments. You’ll learn why 30 to 60 second micro-practices work better than rare marathon meditations, and how to habit stack calm with anchors you already have—coffee brewing, school pickup, red lights, bedtime. We share tools you can use when emotions run high: an exaggerated sigh to cue safety, cold water resets, feet-to-floor grounding, and simple mantras that soften perfectionism and future-tripping.

Kristen breaks down her Ripple Effect Method, a four-pillar framework—physical, emotional, social, and spiritual—that helps you spot what’s underfed and start small. We talk through real-world examples: choosing movement and sunlight, setting a daily emotional intention like “calm” or “fun,” auditing nourishing and draining relationships, and rebuilding identity through hobbies you loved as a kid. Expect honest talk about setbacks, repairs with your kids, and the slow magic of presence that expands from seconds to minutes to a reliable inner quiet—even in loud rooms and long afternoons.

If you’re craving more ease, connection, and confidence, this conversation gives you clear steps and realistic rhythms to make change stick. Subscribe, share with a friend who carries a heavy load, and leave a quick review so more parents can find practical tools for calmer days.


For more on Kristin's work you can find her on Instagram.

Lindsay Miller is a distinguished kids mindfulness coach, mindfulness educator and host of The Stress Nanny Podcast. She is known for her suitcase tricks and playful laugh. When she's not cheering on her daughter or rollerblading on local trails with her husband, you can find her using her 20+ years of child development study and mindfulness certification to dream up new ways to get kids excited about deep breathing. Having been featured on numerous podcasts, platforms and publications, Lindsay’s words of wisdom are high impact and leave a lasting impression wherever she goes.

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00:20 - Framing Modern Mom Overwhelm

01:31 - Technology, No Village, And The Invisible Load

05:20 - Nervous System Basics And Burnout

09:08 - Choosing Change Without Guilt

13:20 - Emotional Hygiene Defined

18:05 - Practice When Calm, Not In Crisis

22:05 - Habit Stacking For Busy Moms

26:45 - Stress As A Tool For Kids And Parents

29:56 - In-The-Moment Regulation Tools

35:47 - The Ripple Effect Method: Four Pillars

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Welcome to the Stress Nanny, the podcast where we take the overwhelm out of parenting and help kids and parents build calm, confidence, and connection.

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I'm your host, Lindsay Miller, kids' mindfulness coach and cheerleader for busy families everywhere.

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Each week we'll explore simple tools, uplifting stories, and practical strategies to help your child learn emotional regulation, resilience, and self-confidence, while giving you a little more peace of mind too.

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I'm so glad you're here.

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Welcome to the Stress Nanny Podcast.

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My guest today is Kristen Cogan.

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She's a licensed therapist, coach, and mom of five who helps high-achieving, overwhelmed moms trade survival mode for a life that feels calm, confident, and fully in their control.

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A straight talking, heart-led guide with over two decades of experience, Kristen knows exactly what it's like to carry the mental load and feel like fine is the finish line.

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She empowers women to step out of survival mode and into their magnetic mama era, one where peace, presence, fun, and joy aren't a fantasy, but a daily reality.

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Kristen, thanks so much for joining me.

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I'm so excited to be here today.

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I think it's gonna be a great conversation.

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Yeah.

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So when you reached out, one of the things that struck me immediately was this idea that overwhelm is something that has come about more recently for moms.

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Like it's always been a really hard job with a lot of pieces, but the level of overwhelm that moms are facing in modern life is different than at any other time.

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Can you talk a little bit more about that?

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Yeah, I mean, I think today moms are carrying a completely different load than like our own mothers did, right?

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And no one's prepared us for it.

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We're in this new age of technology and social media, and we're raising our kids in a world that just never turns off.

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There's no village to help us anymore, but there's constant noise surrounding us, right?

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And we have so many pressures on us set by society and then that we put on ourselves the pressure to be a gentle parent, to be an emotionally perfect mom, the invisible load of managing every appointment, meal, schedule, meltdown, and doing it perfectly and looking the part while we're doing it right.

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And it's exhausting to keep up with this.

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I have to do it all and I have to do it well every moment of every day.

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And it's just so draining for moms that we don't even know what we're doing because we're just constantly like on the hamster wheel.

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Yeah, just that continual cycle with no real respite from information, communication, the needs around us, right?

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Yeah.

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There's no breaks, right?

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And our nervous system never gets a chance to catch up or shut down and relax.

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Yeah.

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And like you're saying, we're designed for that, right?

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Like our nervous system is by nature designed to have a little minute to settle so that it can recalibrate and reset for the next day.

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And so without that, we end up with stress levels that just keep elevating without the dip to bring us back down to what feels manageable.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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And I feel like a lot of women I work with don't even know what manageable feels like, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's so foreign.

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Totally.

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I was just talking to my sister-in-law the other day.

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Our audience knows I have an autoimmune condition.

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And so in my early 30s, I needed to recalibrate my stress levels in a really kind of dramatic way because part of the remission process was just some lifestyle changes.

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Anyway, my sister-in-law reached out the other day because she's in a similar situation and needing to make some changes.

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And as we were talking, there were some dietary components, you know, some lifestyle components and then just general knowledge that she needed.

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And that we both agreed, like for her with her six kiddos, the lifestyle components were hands down going to be the most complicated part of the process for her.

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Cause she was like, How do I even like exactly what you said?

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What does that even look like for me to bring my stress levels down to a place where I feel like I can reset every day?

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She's like, I don't even know what that world is.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And it's a slow process to learn and it feels really uncomfortable at first because everyone feels like we're being judged and you're not doing enough.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's such a good point that the contrast or just the decision to move the needle in the other direction instead of accepting that overwhelm is the status quo and take those actions, like you're saying, it's one of the hardest parts, right?

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Because it does mean we reclaim a little bit of what we've kind of like left around us.

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And that process of reclamation can feel selfish.

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It can feel scary.

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I feel like sometimes it can feel isolating if we're not showing up for people the same way we used to.

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You have some really great ways to explain this, including like emotional hygiene.

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Talk to us about some of the ways that you help moms navigate this process in a gentle to them and compassionate way.

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Right.

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Yes.

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Well, emotional hygiene is like the daily care that your inner world needs because we're always focused on the outer world.

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And it's making that shift to focus internally.

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So just like we brush our teeth every day to prevent cavities, to take care of our physical hygiene, we have to take care of our emotional hygiene as well to prevent an emotional buildup, that resentment, burnout, overstimulation, those like, I can't do this one more second moments that moms have sometimes.

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And so it really means like taking a minute to check in with yourself before you explode, you know, building in that capacity to even pause.

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A lot of us don't have that.

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And then we go down that guilt spiral because we've exploded.

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Learning just to name our feelings instead of stuffing them down, releasing guilt and frustration, practicing grounding tools and regulation skills on a daily basis, having that be part of a daily habit and not just something that you want to use when everything's going chaotic, right?

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Yeah.

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Because it's not gonna work then.

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Or if it's gonna work, it's only gonna dial it down just a notch, not enough.

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Yeah.

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Learning to set boundaries to protect your peace is part of emotional hygiene, repairing with your kids or your partner when you do lose it, because we've got to stop that shame and guilt spiral afterwards.

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And just learning to restore your nervous system back to what we call the window of tolerance, that place where we feel safe and connected and comfortable and in control, right?

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Yeah.

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Moms, we're constantly outputting our emotional, mental, and physical abilities.

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And so we just have to find a way to rein that back in.

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Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent.

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And one of the things I think is especially challenging, and you allude to this in your work as well, is that right now a lot of moms are navigating that space, trying to learn those skills themselves while caring for elderly parents and teaching young children.

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And it's a really tricky skill set to learn in the thick of all of that, right?

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To come to emotional intelligence and be like, perfect, in the middle of all this chaos on both sides of me generationally, I'm gonna implement these skills and then share them with all of those around me because that's what we do as mothers, right?

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Is we're like, once I know, I need to make sure my kids know and I can try to help my mom do some of these things too.

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Or benefit everybody.

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Yeah, and it does benefit everybody, but it's so tricky to learn in the thick of it.

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Uh-huh.

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It is.

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You have to remember that you have to start small.

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I'm always telling the women I work with like, small is big, slow is fast, and simple is powerful.

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Because we always want to get to the end result as fast as possible.

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And we miss a lot in doing that.

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You know, I love to collapse time when I can, but we do have to build up and teach ourselves these things.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's such a good point.

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And I will use similar phrasing with the clients that I work with, right?

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Because I'm teaching kids these skills and then I'm sending parents email updates talking about what we've learned.

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And then parents are kind of just figuring stuff out on their own or utilizing coaches like you to help them learn as well.

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But one of the things we talk about is that building the foundation for these skills, it takes us three to six months to just start, right?

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To start to notice when a pause would be helpful.

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And so as we're implementing and practicing, I think it's easy to get to a point where you feel totally at your wit's end and at the end of just all of your tools that you've used are not working and be like, okay, I need some help.

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And then you come to the skills and you're like, okay, this is not a quick fix.

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We're not just taking something and implementing it tomorrow.

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And the practice of undoing a lifetime of self-deprecation takes a lot of time, right?

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And for me, at least, that's the root of a lot of it is just that self-compassion piece that we have to put in place in order for the other skills to follow.

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But what's so rewarding is to get those quick wins.

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Like parents will usually see something in the first three months that's a shift, and then we can start to snowball after that.

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But I always try to give them the vision, right?

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Of where we're headed.

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And I think that's what you're saying too.

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If you can just appreciate that those small interactions or those small shifts that you're making are actually really big.

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Or that the momentum you're building is leading you somewhere pretty incredible and it's gonna have such a high impact, tethering to the vision can be so helpful.

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Exactly.

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You just have to trust the process, which can be really hard.

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Yeah.

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Especially again, when you're investing the time and energy into it and wanting the results yesterday.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I love the things you shared as emotional hygiene.

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And I think that the key to what we're talking about is regular implementation, right?

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It's like not a just use it when you're stressed out or, oh yeah, my kid just made me so frustrated.

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I better start breathing right now.

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Right.

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It is really those day-to-day moments of practice when we're calm that lend the strength and support when we need it.

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So talk to us about how we can do that on a daily basis instead of just trying to tune in when we're overwhelmed.

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Yeah.

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First is just recognizing that that's important.

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Yeah.

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And that it seems silly to practice these things when you are feeling calm or grounded, right?

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You're like, why do I need this?

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Yeah.

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And I think a lot of my clients realize they practice it when they're feeling pretty good and they're like, oh, I didn't realize maybe I was a little more elevated than I thought I was, right?

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So it's really learning what does calm or neutral feel like?

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And when you're coming from a place of an activated nervous system all the time, it can be really uncomfortable to feel calm because there's no activation.

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Like a lot of clients say it feels like vanilla or boring.

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And like, why would I want to be here?

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Because I don't feel that charge.

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Yeah.

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So first step is just learning that that's okay not to feel anything.

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And then practicing small little things.

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I love to tell people doing something for 30 to 60 seconds multiple times throughout the day is going to be in my eyes more beneficial than sitting down and doing a 45 minute meditation.

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Because first of all, like who has 45 minutes to actually dedicate to a meditation on a daily basis?

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When you've got a bunch of kids running around.

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Yep.

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No, I definitely don't.

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But you can make these shifts happen just building on 30 seconds multiple times a day.

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Yeah, totally.

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I agree.

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And I think that the point that the consistent practice is the goal is so important, right?

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And it is again in one of those situations where it's a simple thing that makes a big impact.

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Or how did you say a small thing that has a big impact?

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Yes, exactly.

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And so learning how can I build this into my day, right?

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That's the first question everyone asks.

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It seems so foreign.

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What can I do?

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And so I always use habit stacking as a great way to do it.

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So, you know, if you're making your coffee in the morning while that's brewing, you could take four calming breaths.

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Or my favorite is my shift from ending my work day to going to pick up my kids and using that time in the car before I go in to greet them to center myself.

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And it looks different every day.

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It might be me like jamming out to a trailer swift song one day, and the next day it might be me sitting in quiet and just taking some deep breaths and always reminding myself that I want to greet my children with a smile is one of my mantras that helps.

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And it really doesn't take that much time to shift from the weight of the day into mom mode, right?

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Yeah.

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So a lot of times it's like, oh, I gotta go get my kids, and the evening cycle is gonna happen, and it's just a little dreadful sometimes.

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We're being honest.

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And so reframing your mindset can be helpful.

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And then before bed, I think it's a great time to just put your hand on your heart, tell yourself you've done a great job today with what you've had, and take a few deep breaths.

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And again, these things seem so simple and so kind of silly in a way, but they really do have a huge impact on your body and how you start showing up with the others around you.

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Yeah, a hundred percent.

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I couldn't agree more.

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And I love the simple ways that you weave it in.

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I'm also a big fan of habit stacking.

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So with the kids, we talk about that too.

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Like after you brush your teeth or when you're putting on your backpack, could you take three deep breaths?

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Because if you're racing out of the house, maybe that's not the best time to do it because you're not calm.

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But you know, if you're waiting at the bus stop, there's so many opportunities throughout the day if we choose to take them for adding that little bit of calm.

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And I love to make it visual, especially for kids, right?

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So we'll draw like a stress chart and talk about stress going up and then us bringing it back down like a roller coaster, right?

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And then it goes up for another thing, and then you bring it back down.

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And mom life is that 100%, right?

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It's a complete roller coaster, especially after school, like you're talking about.

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And I love that visual, it's helping nor normalize that it's okay to get stressed.

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We all get stressed, and then we got to bring it back down, right?

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Yeah.

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Another key thing I always think is don't wait for quiet.

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If you're waiting for the quiet moment to practice these things, it's not gonna happen.

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So you can ground and center yourself with loud kids in the car while your kids having a meltdown.

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It's not about the environment you're in, but it's just the practice of training your body to do these things.

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Yeah, it's such a good point because the stop light is where I will often take a deep breath.

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Yeah.

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So it just if I'm stopped at a red light, usually that's frustrating for me because I don't like being stopped at red lights.

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And so it's good for me to just appreciate the minute that I have instead of getting frustrated.

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So it's a double benefit for me.

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But I think just those moments, sometimes the radio's on, right?

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And I don't always just turn the radio off to take my deep breath.

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I'm just like, okay, stopping.

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I'm taking a deep breath.

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I am fully paused in this moment.

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Yeah.

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And then the light's gonna turn green and I'm gonna go be on with my day.

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But it's not the kind of meditation you might envision or experience in yoga class or, you know, see other people participate in on retreats.

00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:14.320
Like mom life meditation tends to be a little bit more scattered, loud, and just out of necessity wherever it happens.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, but that's great.

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And when you practice it at every green light or red light, it becomes more automatic when you do start to feel triggered, which is awesome.

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Yeah.

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I think it's a good point too, though, the normalizing, because I am especially keen on kids recognizing the value of stress because I think sometimes we have combatant relationships with it, and it really can serve us, right?

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As long as we're not stuck in that adrenal cycle where it's a con we're constantly under duress.

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And so I think that one of the things that can be interesting is recognizing when it serves when you have a boost of adrenaline because you are about for kids, right?

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We'll talk about because you are about to have this race or because you're about to perform and how the kids can start to recognize like, oh, if I know how to calm myself down and I'm not at the mercy of my adrenaline, I can actually leverage it to have a better performance and to make the test at school go better than what I anticipated.

00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.519
And I think it can be the same for moms.

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Our day-to-day is gonna look different, but it can be tricky to let go of the adrenaline rush that's 24-7.

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But when we do, I think there are really moments when we can appreciate the value of it in a different way.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Okay, but let's go back to being overstimulated.

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If somebody's on the edge of losing their cool, what are some tools you recommend?

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Like they've been practicing in the interim, they've been practicing before bed with the morning coffee, they've been implementing the breathing at different points.

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What are some other ways they can regulate in the thick of a really stressful moment?

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Mm-hmm.

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My favorite one is just taking an inhale and letting out a big sigh.

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So a really exaggerated sigh.

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Yeah.

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The louder the better.

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Because I think that's a really good sign or cue to your nervous system that you're not being chased by a bear in this moment because you're actually taking this time to take the breath and have this sigh.

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And if you were running for your life, that wouldn't be happening.

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And it just does a quick shift, I feel like.

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No, you know, like when I feel myself escalating, I verbalize that to my children.

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Like I feel my chest is getting tight or that my heart's racing, or that I'm feeling frustrated because that helps them examine what maybe they are doing or adding to the chaos.

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Yeah.

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And they can help shift that as well.

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It's all about co-regulation too.

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Yeah, a hundred percent.

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Well, and I love the recognition that the physical sensation is sometimes the thing that's actually triggering to us.

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And if we can just name it to tame it that way, like naming the emotion is important.

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But sometimes if my heart is racing, I'm just stressed out because I'm feeling my heart racing, right?

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And so I'm like, oh, my heart is racing right now.

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Then we can approach the emotion from the physical side or the like mental emotional side.

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And I think there's so much value in both, right?

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Taking the deep breath and letting the nervous system calm, but then also normalizing, oh, my heart rate's a little elevated right now.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yes.

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Another one I love is doing a temperature shift using cold water, washing your hands or running it on your wrist.

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Something about that really just shifts your nervous system.

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Holding an ice cube, I know ice rollers are really popular right now for your face.

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So even just doing that a couple of times a day can help to build up.

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But in the moment, it's also another great way to calm you down.

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I love that.

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Yeah, that's not one that I use, but I love it.

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And I think again, the sensory shift, right?

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If we can focus our sensory experience on something else, then oftentimes we can gain a little bit of space between ourselves and the situation in front of us.

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Exactly.

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Another great one that's a sensory shift as well is just pressing your feet into the floor for three seconds and then releasing that and just really noticing that connection to the earth.

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Again, it just somehow shifts it away, right?

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And sometimes they're not, we have to remember, sometimes it's not like a huge shift.

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You might be a seven on a scale of 10 and it's only shifting it down to a 6.8, and that's okay.

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It's practice over time makes it better, right?

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Yeah.

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I also use mantras a lot.

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Yeah, I want to hear them.

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One of them I say is I'm doing the best I can with what I have, right?

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So give me a little self-compassion there.

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This too shall pass.

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This is just a season.

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All these things that just remind me that this is just a moment and it's not always going to feel this way.

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Do you have any mantras you use?

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I love the first one you shared.

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I'm doing the best I can with what I have in this moment.

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I really like the idea of all good moms make mistakes.

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Yes.

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And not that we need to be putting judgment or value on moms, they are great regardless, but I'm wanting to offer my child a high quality experience.

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All moms make mistakes and kids are now great, you know.

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So I think that some variation on that is helpful.

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I also like the recognition that I'll have what I need when I need it.

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Because sometimes, especially in parenting, I can get worried about the what ifs or what's coming up or what this might mean or whatever.

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And so I think that when I am on that rabbit wheel of thought, it's easy for me to escalate myself, you know, with my thoughts.

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And so if I can bring myself back down and just say, I'll have what I need when I need it, then it helps me be a little less anxious about the future.

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Yes.

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I love that.

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And then I also just want, I'm here now.

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You know, like I am here.

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Yes.

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In the present moment, right?

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That's where we need to be.

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Yeah.

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Talk to me about the ripple effect method.

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So I think this is something that is going to tie into some of the other things we've talked about.

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But walk us through what it is, where it came from, and how it helps moms become the confident version of themselves they're looking for.

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Yeah.

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So I call it the ripple effect method.

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It's basically ways to practice good emotional hygiene.

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And when you're doing that, that ripples into your life, right?

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And if you're taking good care of yourself, your family and friends and coworkers all feel that.

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And if you're not taking good care of yourself, they also feel that.

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And I created this after.

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So I have five kids, and at one time I had four under four.

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Blessed your heart.

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Yes.

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And it was very trying.

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And I was like, I've got to figure this out because I was trying to be what I saw.

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I saw on social media or on Pinterest, right?

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And it was just not attainable.

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And nobody told me that motherhood's actually really hard and it doesn't life.

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So I was like, I am never going to survive this.

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And so that's when I realized, okay, really taking care of myself is important and so hard to do as a mom because you see these babies that need you.

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How can I tell them to wait so that I can do something for me?

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Right.

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Yeah.

00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:43.039
So the ripple effect method really just helps you start taking care of that.

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And so it's broken down into four pillars.

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So think of a chair.

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If it has four legs, great.

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It's sturdy, it's stable.

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And if one's kind of shaky, then the whole chair is shaky.

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And if two are missing, then you can't even sit in it.

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So this is kind of the way to look at the emotional hygiene.

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The four pillars are physical, emotional, social, and spiritual.

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Okay.

00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:10.640
So we'll go through each one.

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And don't get overwhelmed by like, oh my gosh, it's four things that I have to do.

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Cause I hear my clients sing that right from the start.

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It's okay.

00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:24.480
This is just to give us an overview so we can examine and reflect on where we are in our life.

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And I have moms just look at this like once a month, once a week, if you really can, but once a month, how am I doing on these four things?

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Where can I do better?

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Where do I need to put my weight into?

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So the first one is physical.

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So this is the things that you do daily or almost daily that make you feel good.

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The physical things you do.

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Like for me, it's like making my bed.

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I enjoy getting dressed in cute clothes.

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I enjoy putting makeup on.

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When I look good, I feel good about myself.

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And it just helps how I present myself.

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This could be drinking water or eating well, taking a shower, even though that's a basic need, it's also one of those things.

00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:06.960
Some days.

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What are some things that you do daily that kind of make you focus?

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The physical type things.

00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:16.799
Yeah, for me, I like drinking my AG1 in the morning.

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Yes.

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So I get up and I have my AG1.

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I have a dandelion tea a little bit later.

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Those two things are really grounding for me and help me feel like, okay, I'm putting some stuff in this morning that's getting me going, exercising.

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:33.599
So I like to move in the morning.

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And then I'm at a stage of life where gaining muscle is important.

00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:43.519
So making sure that I'm doing something to add a bit of muscle to my frame is uh helpful.

00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:53.039
And then walking my dogs, just getting outside that I try not to listen to something while I'm walking them and just be with them, be present, be in nature.

00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:58.000
So that's the sensations that I get when I'm walking the wind in my face or the sun.

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Yes, you know, today the snow outside, the crunch of the leaves.

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.000
Like all of those things are really nourishing to my senses.

00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.640
So yeah, those are a few that are important to me.

00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:09.519
I love that.

00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:14.880
And so what I do is I have clients write down the things that they do or that they want to do more often.

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Maybe they don't do them at all.

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Other things that would go here is if you like getting your hair done every once in a while or getting your nails done, things like that will go in this column too.

00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:38.559
And the neat thing about this column is when you identify the things that are important to you that really make you feel good, like the top two or three, when you notice that you stop doing those, it tells you like this is a slippery slope.

00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:43.440
So for me, if you see me with a messy bun for a week in a row, be like, hey girl, what's going on?

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.039
You need something with yeah, it's just a simple tell, right?

00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:47.759
Yeah.

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Okay.

00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.799
So the second one is emotional.

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So this is just examining what emotions do I currently feel in my life that I like.

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What emotions would I like to feel more of, maybe that I don't experience at all or very often.

00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:12.160
And just being mindful of that and then setting an intention in the morning of today, I want to feel more peace in my day.

00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:16.640
And something about just setting the intention helps it come to you throughout the day.

00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:17.920
I don't know if you find that.

00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:19.039
Yeah, 100%.

00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:25.920
I talked to the kids about how it's kind of like a word search where if you tell your brain what words to look for, there's a bunch of words you could find in there.

00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.000
But if you tell your brain the ones to look for, it's gonna focus on those and find them.

00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.160
That's how I feel about emotions and mantras.

00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:37.599
And I'm like, you tell your brain in the morning this is what you're looking for, it's gonna find it for you.

00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:38.240
Yes.

00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.519
So every day, just pick a new one that you want to work on.

00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:52.880
You know, for me right now, it's calm, fun is a big one because I feel like as a mom, you're just going through the motions and you forget that you want to have a fun, loving relationship with these humans, right?

00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:58.720
And so that helps me remember, oh, I can do little things they think are fun throughout the day and that are fun for me.

00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:00.720
Gratitude is another great one.

00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.200
But really, anything that you want, just write it down.

00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.839
And if you're a person that journals, you can journal what that would look like in your day.

00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.480
But yes, I love the word search analogy.

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.759
That's perfect.

00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:20.000
Yeah, no, I think I love the idea of writing it down too, because there was a time in my life, I haven't done it recently, but where I'd write down three things in the morning, right?

00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:21.440
Pretty consistently.

00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:29.920
And it's fun to it is a bit of a challenge for your brain, but it's fun to see how it comes through for you, you know, bring brings those things to you.

00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:30.640
Exactly.

00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:31.599
It's crazy.

00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.240
Okay, so the third one is social.

00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:42.319
So the first part of social is reflecting on am I an introvert or extrovert when it comes to recharging my batteries?

00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:47.759
Do I need to be alone to refill my cup or do I actually get energy from being around other people?

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:53.119
And that's just important to have in the back of your mind so that you can be like, oh, this week I haven't been alone at all.

00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.240
No wonder I'm really grumpy if that's something you need, right?

00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:56.640
Yeah.

00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:04.960
Also, social is making a list of people in your life that you want to connect with, enjoy being around.

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:14.240
Maybe you don't talk to very often, but want to have that relationship and just touching on that relationship here and there to keep it going.

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:21.279
Also, on the flip side of that is making a list of people that are draining to you or that maybe you need to cut out of your life.

00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:24.880
And it's okay to do that and to set boundaries around these people.

00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.759
Coworkers, maybe you can't not see them, but you can set some boundaries around that.

00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:36.160
Also, listing things like volunteering things that you do or all your social type responsibilities.

00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.119
So, one that you can see, what have I committed to?

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And do I really enjoy these things or not?

00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:50.240
And can I take any of them off my plate and really like hone in on the ones that do light you up?

00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.400
And then the fourth pillar is spiritual.

00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:59.519
And this one I always want to be the biggest pillar for my clients.

00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:06.480
This is where you think about the things that nurture your soul and lift your spirits.

00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:13.440
So one of the things you mentioned would go on physical and spiritual, like your walk where you're noticing all this sensations and stuff.

00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:15.839
That would be an awesome spiritual one too, right?

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:16.160
Yeah.

00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.240
Therapy would go here.

00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.640
If you are religious and you go to some kind of service or something, that would go here too.

00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.640
And then things you enjoy doing that kind of lift you up.

00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.720
And it could be something as small as, like you mentioned, your dandelion tea.

00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.440
I'm sure that's something that's very enjoyable, right?

00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:33.920
Nice.

00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.119
That doesn't take a lot of time, money, or effort to do.

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.039
Or it could be traveling.

00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:43.200
Maybe you love to travel and would love to do two-week trips every year or something.

00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:48.559
Can't do that on a daily basis, but definitely like when you do, it's very nurturing.

00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.279
So we want to have things for all categories.

00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:56.319
So I find with moms, though, a lot of them are like, I don't know what I like to do.

00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:57.359
Right?

00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:01.440
They've lost their identity because they think they're just a mom.

00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:07.200
And so sometimes when that's a struggle, we go back to, well, what did you enjoy when you were a child?

00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:08.960
What things did you like to do?

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.519
I had one client, she loved to ride her bike.

00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.480
And so she bought a bike and is riding her bike now.

00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.599
A lot of times you'll find imaginary play or doing things with your hands, different crafts.

00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:28.720
All those things are great things to add onto your list because we want to go to this list like when we're really struggling and can pull our coping skills from there.

00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:30.079
Yeah.

00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:31.200
No, I love that.

00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:40.960
And I think the exploration as an adult is as important as the exploration that we did as kids, right?

00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.680
And you talked about like, what did you like when you were little?

00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:53.440
And even with the kids that I work with, there are some of them who are maybe interested kind of in an activity, but a little nervous or afraid to try it.

00:31:54.160 --> 00:32:00.799
And so I think all the time, if we take the cues that we're giving our kids for ourselves in those moments, right?

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Like when you've got a kiddo who's nervous about riding a bike, like just try, you know, for a couple of minutes, or everybody makes mistakes, or it's okay, just go outside and, you know, you're gonna need some practice, but you'll get to a point where you're more confident.

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I think if we took that advice for ourselves about finding our hobbies and figuring out what lights us up, that we would be a little bit more gentle in the exploration.

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Cause I think sometimes we might think it's maybe people are worried about having the resources to try out different activities or maybe worried about having the time or just not sure how much energy something's gonna take.

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But I think if we can get curious in those moments, just like we encourage kids to and like they often naturally do, that we can figure out what those things are that bring us the kind of joy you are describing in the spiritual one.

00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:54.000
And then I just love the idea of making sure you're in a balance with all of them.

00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:54.559
Yes.

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And I mean, curiosity is so important, so helpful in so many ways.

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But yeah, so once you have your list of all the four things, just reflecting every week, every month on like how am I doing?

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Am I doing some of these things?

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Did I completely not do anything social last week?

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Maybe I should do something this week.

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And that's just really nurturing to your soul.

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And that shows up in how you parent or how you have a relationship with others.

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Yeah.

00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:24.799
Yeah, it's so beautifully put.

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And I reiterate what we talked about at the beginning, where we said that it's normal to feel overwhelmed so often, but we can normalize this type of balance as well.

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Right.

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Like it's just the shift that we make toward more balance.

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And I like to think of when we're talking about the nervous system and the idea of moving away from something or moving toward this thing, when we're trying to balance our stress levels and we're trying to recalibrate some of these things, it is those incremental shifts that eventually get us to a place of more balance, right?

00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:17.840
And so taking the time to notice, and even if you can't make a big shift in one of those areas, or even if it feels Herculean to just do that one thing that you know makes your day go a little bit better.

00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:26.320
Investing in yourself in those moments, like you're saying, has the ripple effect and in the long run creates a really significant impact.

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Yes, yes.

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And remember, you can start small.

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Yeah.

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And you're worth the effort, right?

00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.440
Like every great mantra.

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I'm worth the effort.

00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:38.719
Yeah, for sure.

00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:39.840
Well, I love that.

00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:40.639
What do you see?

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:51.760
Maybe you could share a story here as we are nearing the end of our chat about what you see shift when moms are able to implement these pillars.

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Yeah, I see that they are becoming more present and they talk about enjoying time with their children more, enjoying their husbands more, just enjoying their life so much more.

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And they're like, I'm not constantly beating myself up about the things that I did wrong, or I'm not constantly worried about how I'm gonna screw it up in the future.

00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.679
They're able to connect with the present moment, and that's where life happens.

00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.559
And if we're not in the present, we're missing it.

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And none of us want to miss our children's childhoods and our motherhood.

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Yeah, a hundred percent.

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I love that.

00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:41.119
And I think that as we fine tune our ability for presence, the ripple just gets bigger, right?

00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.880
And it just is a more significant shift.

00:35:45.119 --> 00:36:07.280
I was thinking earlier when you were talking about taking time for quiet in the middle of chaos, that one of the first times I realized my meditation was gaining traction or my deep breathing for two minutes at bed, you know, like that was what my meditation was comprised of most of the time, was when we were at like a family gathering and I was curled up on the floor, just kind of resting.

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And I realized there was this quiet space within me that I could just find.

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And it was loud and crazy and stuff going on, and people yelling and needing things and all of this around me.

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And it was an extended family gathering.

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So other people were taking care of the children's needs at that time, and I didn't have to do any specific parenting.

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But I just remember thinking how nice and surprising it was to be able to access a sense of calm steadiness amidst that.

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You know what I mean?

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And it took a while for me to get to that point, but knowing that place is there, it's like always an invitation to come back to it, right?

00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:50.639
I want to find it again.

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:57.199
When I talk with kids about it, we talk about it like the first time you're at your at a new school and you have to find the gym.

00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.519
So the gym is where a lot of cool stuff happens, right?

00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.000
Like sometimes you eat lunch in the gym, there's lots of games going on.

00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.159
If you're an older kid, there's dances at the gym.

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It's a good place to know where, you know, you want to know where the gym is.

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And so the first time you try to find your way to the gym, it might be a little bit tricky because you've never been there before.

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The next time you try to find the gym, it might be a little bit confusing, but you have a sense of where to go.

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You may need a help from a friend, you may need directions.

00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:23.679
Eventually, you can get to the gym like with your eyes closed, right?

00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.079
You know where it is, you can find it, you're ready to go.

00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:28.320
And I think about that with calm, right?

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That's that quiet space.

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And sometimes it just takes a little while for us to figure out how to get there consistently.

00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.639
But once we do and we can rely on it, there's a lot of great stuff that happens there.

00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.119
Yes, I love the great analogy.

00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.559
Well, this has been such a great conversation.

00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:48.079
I am so glad that we could connect today.

00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:54.079
I'm wondering if, as we leave, there's any one piece of advice you might want to share.

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Someone who's listening, maybe they're feeling a little bit hopeful that this is accessible to them, right?

00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.079
And that maybe they've tried a few of these things, but maybe haven't thought of it the way that you shared today.

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What would you say to them to help them continue on with a bit of momentum?

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:19.760
Yeah, I think one, reminding yourself, like every skill that we talked about today isn't going to work for every person.

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So experiment, see what you like, see what you don't like, notice the shifts in your body.

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Try to notice even just the minor ones, right?

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And keep going.

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When you find something that you like and you think, okay, maybe this will help, keep practicing it.

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Set a reminder on your phone if you need to to practice every day and just notice am I noticing any shifts?

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Am I able to wait half a second longer before I snap at my kid?

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Like that's huge.

00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:50.559
Okay.

00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.559
And you eventually you'll get there where you don't even snap all the time, right?

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Yeah.

00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:03.679
And just noticing that and giving yourself permission to try these things out, I think is the biggest.

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I think we show up and we're like, I'm afraid that this isn't gonna work for me.

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And maybe you try one thing and that one doesn't feel very good.

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So you give up.

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So give yourself permission to try the different things out, figure out what you like, stick with it.

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And then in three months, when you start to feel better, and then one day it doesn't work, remind yourself that it's okay.

00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:33.119
It's gonna get messy again before you even have that benefit of knowing exactly where the gym is.

00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:33.920
Yes.

00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:35.519
Oh my gosh, that was so good.

00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.519
And I can relate to that with my kiddos too, because we'll make a lot of progress.

00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:40.960
And as a parent, you see this, right?

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Your kid is struggling with something, you get them some support, they're making a ton of progress, and then they have a setback, and it's so discouraging for them, right?

00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:53.039
And it's discouraging for you too, because you think we are really getting somewhere with this.

00:39:53.280 --> 00:40:00.960
But the truth is that the things that we learn in the setback are often the things that help us build the most resilience, right?

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:01.840
Exactly.

00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.519
I always think of it as like the cycle of a butterfly, kind of.

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Yeah.

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We go through this ugly phase where it feels messy and everything's not working okay.

00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:18.880
And then you become this butterfly and then it starts all over again where you have the setback and yeah, it's just part of life.

00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:19.519
Yeah.

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Yeah.

00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:29.679
So we'll put, and for the kids that I coach, one of the reasons we go for a year is we will say, okay, the first six months we're gonna build this foundation and we're gonna have these tools.

00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:35.679
And then the next six months we're gonna live life and figure out which ones really stick for you, you know, and that's what it is, right?

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:42.480
It's figuring out, okay, when the rubber meets the road, which of these tools are the go-to ones for you for this particular thing?

00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:50.880
And then when they don't work for this other thing, that's when we're like, okay, let's pull something else out of your toolbox because this obviously isn't the duel for this moment.

00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:55.360
But I think as adults, sometimes it can be hard to learn new things, right?

00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:56.800
And to feel like we're beginners.

00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.840
I love in mindfulness, we practice beginners' mind.

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And the idea that you look at a situation as though you'd never done it before.

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And I think that if we can give ourselves the grace that comes with that as we practice these mindfulness techniques and the things that you shared today, we can remember that I don't actually have to be an expert at this ever.

00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.480
It's the journey that's the goal and the commitment to the journey is the key.

00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.760
And that's where that self-compassion comes in, right?

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:26.880
100%.

00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:28.000
Yeah.

00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.719
Well, Kristen, thank you again for joining me.

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Tell our audience where they can find you and connect with your work.

00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:34.559
Yeah.

00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.840
The best place to find me is on Instagram at Imperfectly Wonderful Motherhood.

00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:44.000
I have a great community there and would love to connect with everyone there.

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Just send me a message and let's start chatting.

00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:47.440
Okay, great.

00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:48.719
Thank you again.

00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:49.920
Thank you.

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